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David Roberts's avatar

It will end up being 51/48 so in that sense it's still practically just as much your country and mine as anyone else's.

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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

I'm not sure that is true, especially with a Supreme Court that will be an extension of this Republican Party for decades. The irony is that people like you and me will be just fine, but the very people who Adams, Madison, and Hamilton warned should not have the vote, will likely not be. I don't know what depresses me more--Trump himself or the utter ignorance of a nation that returned him to office.

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Wayne Dernetz's avatar

It is a shocking loss, to be sure. And the price we pay will be heavy. But we cannot give up. Those of us who hold the values and principles that we do must fight on. There is no other choice or option. Some may choose to emigrate, or drop out. But that is a false choice because the repercussions of this election will follow us around the globe. We must choose to stand and fight and to continue for as long as it takes to reverse the tide of autocracy and corruption.

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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

Well, that is a heartfelt sentiment, although I'm not certain this tide is reversible for at least another decade. We'll see in 2026, but the districts will be so gerrymandered that winning will be that much harder. The Senate forget unless the economy craters, which is possible. The country chose this path and, sadly, it is reminiscent of every once great power that watched its influence erode as it tried to hang on to the past instead moving toward the future.

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Wayne Dernetz's avatar

Yes, I agree with your assessment. But, after four years of Trump and MAGA rule, I think it is possible that "we the people" may have a change of heart and, assuming we have more presidential elections after 2024, will vote. the MAGA crowd out. We know and you know the political history of this nation does swing back and forth. Maybe not in my lifetime, but perhaps in yours.

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Jonathan Glynn's avatar

My biggest fear now is will they get the House! 😩

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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

The biggest fear that over the next four years, the Republicans will rig the system so that it will be impossible to get them out.

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Jonathan Glynn's avatar

I wouldn’t really even discount the fact that this election was rigged. I hope it doesn’t get to the point where I’m afraid to even write stuff like this.

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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

No. The scarier part is that it wasn't rigged...that this is the country, and it will be for quite some time.

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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

Indeed.

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Meg telligman's avatar

So, so sad.

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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

Indeed it is. A symptom of a nation on the decline.

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